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April 29, 2009

New Hybrids – The New Insight

Filed under: Hybrids — Rich @ 3:52 pm

 

                LOL, it seems like my rants are working.  http://www.richrambles.com/?p=9   I know, specious logic and all that, but still, a bit funny. 

                  $20K buys a 50 MPG hatchback.  Wow. 

                  The new Honda Insight may not have the most original look (Looking much like a Prius or the Chevy Volt), but it does have something anyone shopping for a new car will like.  A low price tag.  Once again, I wish this was a test drive review, but hopefully one of those will be forthcoming. 

                   A friend of mine was asking me for advice on what models they should look at when they go car shopping.  They gave me a price range, and a few parameters, so I started looking for them.  I was surprised at the Insight.  $19,780 for the base model, which was very nicely equipped; I didn’t add a single item from any of the options for a vehicle that’s EPA 40 City, 43 Highway, 41 Combined on the new EPA test cycles.  Real users are reporting the gambit, but high enders have been in the 50’s, including a “high score” that I’ve seen of 57.3 MPG.  On a first tank, that’s one heck of a number.  Combined with a very low price tag, and a heavy advertising route, I can see the new Insight being a hit.  I’ve already seen two (2!) here on the roads of the Motor City. 

                    The thing that continues to floor me is the price.  Under $20K.  This makes it the most reasonably priced hybrid on the market, and even if it can’t deliver the 100+MPG’s it’s ancestor can, it’s still got a lot going for it.  Against a similarly equipped Prius, there’s a more then six (6) thousand dollar difference in the Insights favor, almost regardless if you’re comparing just base model to base model or loaded with voice navi to loaded with voice navi.  This is actually greater then the difference between most hybrid to non-hybrid counterparts (Ex. Ford Escape Hybrid is $4K more then a standard Ford Escape)  With gas prices stable at $2 a gallon, if you have an overperforming Insight and a just at EPA Prius, you’ll always be ahead with the Insight.  That’s hardly the fairest comparison, but still, it’s there. 

                  Now, what’s bad about the Insight?  Well, from reports it doesn’t seem all that peppy.  However, it’s also IMA – Integrated Motor Assist, which means it’s the type of hybrid that is a gasoline car with a electric help.  This means it’s not particularly well suited for city driving, while the ICE (Internal Combustion Engine) will cut off during a stop, you get no electric drive at low speeds.  However, you do get far better highway performance with it, as when you need to accelerate at highway speeds without taxing the engine too heavily, as it instead uses the electric motor to assist, as well as at other times as well.  Don’t think of it as being poorly suited for City as much as being well suited to Highway/higher speed/cruising speeds style driving. 

             I’m looking forward to test driving one.  Hopefully it won’t be that long.

 

New Hybrids – Ford Fusion Hybrid

Filed under: Hybrids — Rich @ 3:37 pm

 

                  EDIT:  I’ve since tested the Ford Fusion Hybrid:  Rich Test: Ford Fusion Hybrid Days 1 and 2 – http://tinyurl.com/yzo9hl2  Rich Test: Ford Fusion Hybrid Long Drive – http://tinyurl.com/yzzoga5  Rich Test: Ford Fusion Hybrid The Loop – http://tinyurl.com/yzot7qj

                  Well, it seems Ford stepped up to my open letter ( http://www.richrambles.com/?p=8 ) and is actually producing the Ford Fusion Hybrid.  As much as I’d love this post to be about my test drive of the vehicle, I’m sad to say that isn’t so. 

                   However, I did talk to an owner this week.  They really like the hybrid system, and are getting 37 MPG in their real world driving, and it’s their first hybrid.  They’ve been able to get up to 35 MPH in EV mode, and they’re getting better all the time.  Sounds great, I eagerly look forward to a test drive of one. 

                  In addition, a Ford team working for charity managed to get a 1000+ tank out of one, though using techniques no real driver would use I don’t think, but that they managed to do so is a testament to the hybrid technology.  It’s a real feather in ones cap to have a vehicle that can go month or months between fillups.   

                   Now the bad news.  Talking with engineers and looking over the specs, they can’t help but note that the phenomenal MPG the FFH (Ford Fusion Hybrid) achieves is by deep cycling the battery often, and I can’t see any other way as well.  As any electronics and battery expert will tell you, deep cycling the battery leads to one inevitable result; a dead battery.  Part of the reason why the first two years of the FEH (Ford Escape Hybrid) have such ICE (Internal Combustion Engine – Gasoline) heavy functions as opposed to such heavy EV (Electric Vehicle – Battery) functions over other HSD (Electric vehicles with gasoline assist type hybrids) is because Ford wanted the battery to outlive the useful life of the frame of the vehicle, that is last more then 15 years without needing replacement.  This ranged from building the best battery they can to including several small programming notes to wear out the battery slower then other similar vehicles, like Toyota’s hybrids.  While the 2009 features the “loosest” programming yet, it still doesn’t work the battery too hard.  However, if the FFH (Ford Fusion Hybrid) is deep cycling the battery, and doing it often part of me can’t help but worry that the useful life of the battery is far less then it is in every other hybrid on the road, which means that FFH (Ford Fusion Hybrid) owners may be the first owners to worry about replacing their batteries later in the vehicles life. 

                 While the persistant myth about why you shouldn’t by a hybrid is their costly batteries, the reality is that while the batteries are costly, they are also essentially never replaced.  During the first few years, when a bad battery or hybrid is likely to go bad, you’re protected by the hybrid warranty that you get when you automatically buy a hybrid.  Later in a vehicles life, it’s only at the end stages that anyone has to worry about the battery.  A handful of original Insight owners and a freak generation 1 Prius owner or two are the only only people who had to really replace their battery, and that was mostly because it was early generation technology that was programmed to, stay with me here, deep cycle the battery over time.  Ugh.

Great Race – Delayed

Filed under: Great Race — Rich @ 3:20 pm

 

                  Due to the harsh economic times in general, and the recent struggles Great Race has had, I recieved an e-mail today from them that the race has been postponed another year at least.  Since I’m not sitting on the entry fee cash, nor is my team ready to go, this is mixed news.  Good that I’m not going to be excluded from it, but bad that I’m not doing it, because really, who doesn’t want to Race Around the World?

 

Gas Prices – Back in Orbit?

Filed under: Gas Prices — Rich @ 3:18 pm

 

                  It seems gas prices really have restabilized, around 2 bucks a gallon both nationally and here in Michigan.  While discussion of what happened is really old news, that it’s actually stayed there instead of creeping back up is worth noting. 

                  Occasionally someone mentions to me, “Are you sorry you got your hybrid now that gas is cheap again?”  After I stop pointing and laughing consider this, I answer “No, I’m not.  I’m as happy as a large truck owner or a poor student that gas prices are cheap again.”  I further elaborate on how spending $20 a month for fuel is so very nice, and the less it costs to fill up, the happier I am.  And it’s very true. 

                   Adding my last tank (368 miles at a cost of $22.50) I looked back at the pain the pumps did cause, and boy did it.  My most expensive fillup was $65 to go 638.8 miles.  Today that same distance would cost me $33 and some change. 

                  So, am I happy gas prices are down?  Absolutely.  I hope they go down further. 

 

Saturn Vue 2 Mode Hybrid Test Drive

Filed under: Great Race, Hybrids — Rich @ 3:07 pm

 

              My contact at GM had come through for me again, and I’ve gotten a chance to briefly test drive the upcoming Saturn 2 mode Vue Hybrid.  This is a small SUV, in the same category as the Ford Escape, and is a potent hybrid for a good price.  $30K for 31 MPG, and some nice features. 

              First and foremost, I recieved some rather crushing news:  GM had decided to fund my team to do the Great Race, and to do it in this model, however the delay of the race and the harsh economic times have put those plans on pause, though there is hope that when they get through the times and the economy recovers and Great Race gets back on track, I’ll be able to race again with them, and if it’s late enough, maybe even in a Volt or other newer model hybrid*

                  As to the VUE itself, it’s a nice vehicle, with it’s new streamlined body and much nicer building materials, this is a well made vehicle.  I found the arm rests and the seats to be very comfortable, and most of the controls rather intuitive and easy to reach.  I did have a few complaints with the MFD (Multi-Function Display) being so far down on the console; I would’ve liked it high like on the Prius, Escape, Civic, or just about every other hybrid out there and it still has that useless GM “Heavy – Light” needle that barely moves.  Supposedly this needle tells you if you’re going to heavy on either the ICE (Internal Combustion Engine – Gas) or the EV (Electric Vehicle – Battery), however, it’s a pretty silly and downright useless needle to anyone who’s ever driven a hybrid before, or isn’t an idiot. 

               However, on the other end of the spectrum, it’s got the greatest needle gauge display ever, and one I think every Hybrid model should have, and that’s a battery charge level needle.  With one quick glance you can see exactly how much charge is in the battery, which enables smart battery management and some really effective EV to ICE transitions.  This needle alone makes the VUE a fantastic hybrid.  Seriously, the usefullness of this kind of gauge cannot be understated.  Other hybrids lack this kind of feature alltogether, or have a graphical approximation.  Both the Toyota and Ford hybrids have a nice display, but sometimes it’s difficult to impossible to know where your SOC (State of charge – juice in the battery) really is; is it a hair over 3 bars?  Is it just under 4?  There’s no way to tell.  With a needle, there’s no guesswork involved.  With smart battery management you can maximize your efficiency starting up to get to cruising speed, in stop and go traffic, alone on slow speed limit roads, and braking to a stop.  All of which a smart driver can do better knowing their exact SOC. 

              The hybrid system itself works like any other HSD-style system, that is it’s an electric vehicle that works in tandom with a gasoline engine to serve up a regular driving experience.  At low speeds, stops, slowing down, and other times when there’s no need for gasoline assistance, said gasoline engine drops off and stops consuming fuel.  I had some difficulty getting up above 20 MPH with the model I tested, but how much was due to the high winds and cold temps that day, I don’t know.  I also found the brakes to be very touchy, especially in the transistion from the regenerative brakes to the actual brakes, causing us to jerk to a stop on more then one occasion until I had figured it out. 

            My biggest problem with the new VUE has nothing to do with the hybrid system at all, but with it’s jellybean shape; the tapered back end results in a very narrow trunk, so narrow it’s actually surprising and disapointing.  If you’re in the market for a small hybrid SUV to haul stuff around in the back, you may be disapointed and have to exclude the VUE from your list.  It does however boast a nice towing capacity, and with the back seats folded down flat, you can pick up quite a bit of space if you don’t have multiple passengers.  So, if you can live with a narrow “behind” and want/need a hybrid SUV, this should be a serious consideration for you.  On the page, it competes very well with the Ford Escape Hybrid, and it seems like a quality made vehicle.

              Bottom line, this is a good hybrid, highly recommended.  Had I gone/were I to go on The Great Race with this vehicle, I would’ve been happy to do so, and probably would’ve come back loving it. 

 

           *This was before the Obama and GM people decried that the Volt wasn’t likely to be a profitable competitive vehicle. 

679 Comments…

Filed under: Humor — Rich @ 2:40 pm

 

            Well, one of the fun things is that I had 679 comments pending my approval.  Wow.  I’d almost feel important if it weren’t for the fact that 677 of them were for either Viagra, porn sites, or other adverts.  Oh well, can’t win them all. 

            I wonder if the sex for gasoline story has drawn a disproportionate number of adbots to here?  Well, as long as I’m on the job, you should be able to view the comments section spam free! 

          Oh, and if you’re one of the people who sent a legitimate message but I spammed you anyway, sorry.  It may have happened, though I don’t think it did. 

Back Baby!

Filed under: Uncategorized — Rich @ 2:10 pm

          

         Well, it’s been a while.  A long while, but I’m back!  There have been a number of developments, and lots to discuss, as well as some things that should’ve been discussed but will be glossed over.  LOL, perhaps the winter months, with it’s resulting low MPG drains my enthusiasm, who’s to say for sure?  However, the point is, I’m back, and hopefully we’ll get back on track and back to blogging regularly! 

 

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